Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast - Interview with David Sanger

January 21, 2015

In our fiftieth episode of the Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker and Michael Vatis discuss:

  • President Obama’s proposed cybersecurity legislation in State of the Union address
  • Europe’s expanded surveillance in wake of Charlie Hebdo killings
  • The National Academy of Sciences study group finds no easy substitute for bulk data collection
  • The DEA’s bulk metadata program is disclosed
  • Pro-ISIS group compromises Central Command’s Twitter and Youtube accounts
  • Prime Minister Cameron lobbies President Obama on encryption

In our second half we have an interview with David Sanger, the chief Washington correspondent for The New York Times and author of ‘Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power.’  He discusses his latest story on how North Korea developed its cyberattack network, and how the National Security Agency managed to compromise the network sufficiently to attribute the Sony attack.

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